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		<title>Apakah Web 2.0 Sudah Mati?</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2009/02/16/apakah-web-20-sudah-mati/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Jawabannya iya, kalau menurut artikel di TechCrunch ini. Dengan melihat trend pencarian di Google yang menunjukan jumlah pencarian kata &#8220;web 2.0&#8221; yang semakin menurun, penulis menyimpulkan bahwa web 2.0 sudah mendekati ajalnya. Orang sudah tidak tertarik lagi membicarakan web 2.0, itu artinya web 2.0 sudah mulai ditinggalkan orang.
Tapi apakah web 2.0 benar-benar sudah mati? Saya [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jawabannya iya, kalau menurut artikel di <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/14/the-death-of-web-20/">TechCrunch ini</a>. Dengan melihat trend pencarian di Google yang menunjukan jumlah pencarian kata &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22web+2.0%22&#038;ctab=0&#038;geo=all&#038;date=all&#038;sort=0">web 2.0</a>&#8221; yang semakin menurun, penulis menyimpulkan bahwa web 2.0 sudah mendekati ajalnya. Orang sudah tidak tertarik lagi membicarakan web 2.0, itu artinya web 2.0 sudah mulai ditinggalkan orang.</p>
<p>Tapi apakah web 2.0 benar-benar sudah mati? Saya tidak tahu. Saya pribadi tidak begitu nge-fans dengan istilah web 2.0. Jadi saya tidak merasa kehilangan kalaupun web 2.0 harus &#8220;mati&#8221;. Istilah web 2.0 hanya bagus terlihat di Power Point saat presentasi atau mejeng di website perusahaan, kartu nama atau portfolio. Tapi dalam realitasnya, kata itu terlalu sering membingungkan orang. Orang yang nge-fans dengan web 2.0 pun belum tentu ngerti apa yang ia bicarakan.</p>
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<p>Sering klien datang meminta agar website-nya dirombak jadi &#8220;lebih web 2.0&#8243;, yang kemudian ternyata yang dimaksud adalah agar websitenya lebih terlihat glossy, simple, dengan warna-warna cerah (yang dia sebut warna web 2.0), logo dengan bayangan di bawahnya dan ada tulisan &#8220;beta&#8221; di kanan atasnya.  <strong style="display:none"><a href="http://ccan20.co.cc/olii30.html">???????? ???? ?????????? ?????</a></strong> <em style="display:none"><a href="http://def.lovesexys.ru/latina/215-11.html">????? ????? ?????? ??????? ???????</a></em> <strong style="display:none"><a href="http://bird.sexolayka.ru">???? ? ?????????? ???????</a></strong>   </p>
<p>Kalaupun ada klien yang sedikit lebih ngerti teknologi, mereka mengartikan web 2.0 sebatas penggunaan AJAX di websitenya. Itupun sering keliru dengan penggunaan animasi atau efek-efek Javascript saja.</p>
<p>Jadi, menurut saya bagus juga kalau orang mulai berhenti membicarakan web 2.0. Karena bisa jadi itu menunjukkan bahwa orang mulai mengerti apa yang sebenarnya mereka inginkan.</p>
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		<title>FakeYourSpace in trouble</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2007/02/27/fakeyourspace-in-trouble/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Hacking]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Remember FakeYourSpace.com? a site that provides fake hot friends on popular social networking sites such as MySpace or Friendster. I mentioned about this a while ago.
It turned out that they&#8217;re doing very well. According to New York Times, FakeYourSpace attracted 50,000 hits a day. Until they&#8217;re facing trouble with iStockPhoto, the source where it gets [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember <a href="http://www.fakeyourspace.com/">FakeYourSpace.com</a>? a site that provides fake hot friends on popular social networking sites such as MySpace or Friendster. I <a href="http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/12/09/hacking-reputation/">mentioned</a> about this a while ago.</p>
<p>It turned out that they&#8217;re doing very well. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/26/technology/26fake.html?ex=1330146000&amp;en=a38bdf6161d2d83f&amp;ei=5124&amp;partner=permalink&amp;exprod=permalink">According to New York Times</a>, FakeYourSpace attracted 50,000 hits a day. Until they&#8217;re facing trouble with <a href="http://istockphoto.com/">iStockPhoto</a>, the source where it gets the photograph of the models for fake friends.</p>
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<p>Kelly Thompson, iStockPhotoâ€™s vice president for marketing, said its licensing agreement did not allow Web sites to post photos that might lead the average person to â€œthink that the model endorsesâ€ the product, Web site or person in question.</p>
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<p>FakeYourSpace have to shut down their service until later this week because of that.</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what happend when you&#8217;re trying to fake something. Maybe, they have to consider to create fake photos service as well. A mashup from some photos, something like Yahoo! avatar with real faces.</p>
<p>;-p</p>
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		<title>Hacking Reputation</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/12/09/hacking-reputation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Hacking]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I finally have to admit it, i know next to nothing about MySpace, Facebook or Friendster. I don&#8217;t use them, let alone have friends there. But i do know that they are social networking sites, and &#8212; to some extent&#8211; people&#8217;s reputation are based on their popularity on these community.
For that reason, i couldn&#8217;t care [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally have to admit it, i know next to nothing about <a href="http://www.myspace.com/">MySpace</a>, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/">Facebook</a> or <a href="http://www.friendster.com/">Friendster</a>. I don&#8217;t use them, let alone have friends there. But i do know that they are social networking sites, and &#8212; to some extent&#8211; people&#8217;s reputation are based on their popularity on these community.</p>
<p>For that reason, i couldn&#8217;t care less when some people try to fake their popularity on social networking sites to gain &#8220;reputation&#8221;. But <a href="http://www.fakeyourspace.com/">this site</a> is too much,</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.fakeyourspace.com/">FakeYourSpace</a> is an exciting new service that enables normal everyday people like me and you to have Hot friends on popular social networking sites such as MySpace and FaceBook. Not only will you be able to see these Gorgeous friends on your friends list, but FakeYourSpace enables you to create customized messages and comments for our Models to leave you on your comment wall. FakeYourSpace makes it easy for any regular person to make it seem like they have a Model for a friend. It doesn&#8217;t stop there however. Maybe you want to appear as if you have a Model for a lover. FakeYourSpace can make this happen!</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but having &#8220;hot friends&#8221; on internet doesn&#8217;t do any good to my reputation. But to be able to hack reputation on social network sites surely some reputation to me.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next? Sites that offer services to clarify reputation? or new algorithm for detecting fake friends on social network?</p>
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		<title>Glorum</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/10/10/glorum/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
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How many of you have known Glorum? I think its neat. It&#8217;s an open and un-moderated forum. The perfect place to hang out, especially if you&#8217;ve been burried all the time in digg like me. He.. he..
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<p>How many of you have known <a href="http://www.glorum.com">Glorum</a>? I think its neat. It&#8217;s an open and un-moderated forum. The perfect place to hang out, especially if you&#8217;ve been burried all the time in <a href="http://digg.com">digg</a> like me. He.. he..</p>
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		<title>Does Web 2.0 = Dot-com Bust 2.0?</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/09/30/does-web-20-dot-com-bust-20/</link>
		<comments>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/09/30/does-web-20-dot-com-bust-20/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[  John C. Dvorak make a good analysis about YouTube phenomenon,
Though YouTube is free, there haven&#8217;t been serious attempts to monetize it. It&#8217;s time for a reality check. Streaming video on the Internet en masse costs money, and it&#8217;s estimated that YouTube is dropping about $1.5 million a month just to operate. That will double [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <span class="Small_Content"><span class="authorsource">John C. Dvorak make a good <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2010339,00.asp">analysis</a> about YouTube </span></span>phenomenon,</p>
<blockquote><p>Though YouTube is free, there haven&#8217;t been serious attempts to monetize it. It&#8217;s time for a reality check. Streaming video on the Internet en masse costs money, and it&#8217;s estimated that YouTube is dropping about $1.5 million a month just to operate. That will double and triple as more people discover it. These losses can&#8217;t go on forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>But i don&#8217;t think web 2.0 is going to be the second dot com bubble. As Paul Graham <a href="http://paulgraham.com/web20.html">said</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>The reason this won&#8217;t turn into a second Bubble is that the IPO market is gone. Venture investors are driven by exit strategies. The reason they were funding all those laughable startups during the late 90s was that they hoped to sell them to gullible retail investors; they hoped to be laughing all the way to the bank. Now that route is closed. Now the default exit strategy is to get bought, and acquirers are less prone to irrational exuberance than IPO investors. The closest you&#8217;ll get to Bubble valuations is Rupert Murdoch paying $580 million for Myspace. That&#8217;s only off by a factor of 10 or so.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Mark Cuban: Only a &#8216;moron&#8217; would buy YouTube</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/09/30/mark-cuban-only-a-moron-would-buy-youtube/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[IT Stuffs]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Web 2.0]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[  What an attitude here,
Billionaire investor and dot-com veteran Mark Cuban had harsh words Thursday for YouTube, the online site that lets people share video clips, saying only a &#8220;moron&#8221; would purchase the wildly popular start-up.
Source: News.com
This is another reason why i&#8217;m not in to copyrights law. It&#8217;s so fragile that people can sue you [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> What an attitude here,</p>
<blockquote><p>Billionaire investor and dot-com veteran Mark Cuban had harsh words Thursday for YouTube, the online site that lets people share video clips, saying only a &#8220;moron&#8221; would purchase the wildly popular start-up.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1026_3-6121034.html">News.com</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This is another reason why i&#8217;m not in to copyrights law. It&#8217;s so fragile that people can sue you anytime they need to, as Cuban said,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;They are just breaking the law,&#8221; Cuban told a group of advertisers in New York. &#8220;The only reason it hasn&#8217;t been sued yet is because there is nobody with big money to sue.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Technorati one of web 2.0 losers?</title>
		<link>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/09/25/technorati-one-of-web-20-losers/</link>
		<comments>http://www.ngoprekweb.com/2006/09/25/technorati-one-of-web-20-losers/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eris Ristemena</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Web 2.0]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[  After Michael Calore take on the list of web 2.0 losers,  people form wisdump make another brief explaination of their own list of web 2.0 losers. I don&#8217;t know about the rest, but they also includes technorati as number ten on the list.
I wouldn&#8217;t surprise if delicious is on the list, who need [...] ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> After Michael Calore <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,71810-0.html">take </a>on the list of web 2.0 losers,  people form wisdump make another brief explaination of their own <a href="http://wisdump.com/web/top-10-web-20-losers/">list</a> of web 2.0 losers. I don&#8217;t know about the rest, but they also includes <a href="http://www.technorati.com">technorati </a>as number ten on the list.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t surprise if delicious is on the list, who need it anyway if you have nice firefox bookmark, and <a href="http://www.reddit.com">reddit</a> for determining what&#8217;s hot, but technorati? I like it, and i believe lots of people like it too, since it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&#038;range=max&#038;size=medium&#038;compare_sites=&#038;y=r&#038;url=technorati.com#top">constantly growing</a>.</p>
<p>I think we need to define the meaning of losers here. </p>
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